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Turn signals.

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They’re a good invention.

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Use them.

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Every motor vehicle legal for road use has
to have a certain number of exterior lights

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and indicators to be considered roadworthy.

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This is practically a worldwide truth, and
for good reason.

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Putting our fragile meat bags into metal boxes
capable of traveling speeds well in excess

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of what our bodies can naturally accomplish
is inherently dangerous.

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To help make this activity just a little bit
safer, governments world-over have mandated

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that these high-speed mechanical conveyance
devices be fitted with indicator lights to

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help inform the humans in control of other
dangerous driving machines just what sort

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of action the vehicles around them are currently
doing, or about to do.

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Hopefully, this helps avoid collisions.

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And it does!

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But there’s one continent in particular

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--North America--

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that allows tail lights that are

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proven to be a safety compromise, that would
seem bizarre to anyone living in Europe, and

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which frustrate me to no end.

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What is that compromise?

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Well, let’s take a look.

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Oh no, I’m gonna have to go outside for
this, aren’t I?

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Gah!

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Nature!

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This is a 2002 Honda Odyssey.

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It’s a minivan, the most exciting and desirable
class of vehicles available today.

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This vehicle is following European tail light
standards.

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Notice this red section of the tail light.

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This is the brake light, activated by the
brake light switch on the brake pedal, and

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whenever it’s lit, you know without a doubt
that the driver is slowing down (at least

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barring a mechanical issue or a driver riding
the brake).

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With the aid of the third brake light, there
are a total of three indicators to tell drivers

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following the Odyssey that it is slowing down.

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Now notice this amber section of the tail
light.

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Whenever it’s lit, you know that the driver
is signalling for a turn.

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There is no ambiguity between these two signals.

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Red always means stopping, and amber always
means turning.

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This is a 2013 Chevrolet Volt.

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You may have immediately noticed the compromise
here but let’s make it more clear.

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If I step on the brake pedal, three lights
illuminate just like in the Odyssey.

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But if I hit the turn signal, now one of the
brake lights has started flashing.

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There is no amber indicator of any kind on
the rear of this vehicle.

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In North America - that’s right, Canada,
too - the motor vehicle standards allow for

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red turn signals on the rear.

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But even worse, they allow for one indicator
to share the function of both a brake light

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and a turn signal.

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To manufacturers who are continuing to use
this lighting setup, I have two words:

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Stop it!

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Now if it’s somehow not obvious that this
is a safety compromise, let’s go over the

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reasons why.

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Recall a statement I made 11 sentences ago.

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“There is no ambiguity between these two
signals.

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Red always means stopping, and amber always
means turning.”

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Well, there most certainly IS signal ambiguity
when it comes to this vehicle.

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For other drivers, the only way to discern
the meaning of the signal is its behavior.

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A solid light indicates braking, and a flashing
light indicates turning.

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Fair enough, but this creates far too many
unclear and thus potentially dangerous situations.

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Say you’re following a vehicle with a broken
tail light.

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If it were the Volt, then every time the brake
pedal is depressed, only one side would illuminate.

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To an American driver, this would appear as
a turn signal until the point in which they

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have registered that it isn’t flashing.

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In essence, its function is delayed for however
long it takes the person behind you to realize

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that the left tail light is out.

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Granted, the third brake light, mandated for
passenger vehicles in 1986, helps by only

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illuminating with the brake pedal, but then
you have to rely on the driving knowing that.

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At a glance, this looks like a driver signaling
for a right turn, which is not an ideal assumption

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to make.

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They might be slamming on the brake.

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Also, if you’re on an angle and can only
see one of the tail lights, again you can’t

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get a clear picture of what’s going on.

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If you’re looking from this angle and the
driver has their left turn signal on, then

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you couldn’t see that they are stopping.

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This might be an uncommon problem, but imagine
you’re following this car through a left

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turn and you can’t see the other tail light.

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With the left one flashing, it’s up to you
to see that the third brake light is lit.

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See the problem?

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Of course if you have a brake light go out,
now you’ve also lost a turn signal!

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Say on this car that the left tail light went
out.

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Then, every time I step on the brake, it will
briefly look as though I’ve engaged my right

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turn signal, since this light hasn’t lit
up.

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And even worse, if I am using the right turn
signal, now this light can’t function as

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a brake light, and the only thing that will
indicate that I’m slowing down is the third

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brake light.

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So with this light out, and that light flashing
the only indicator that you’re slowing down

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or stopping is the Center High-Mounted Stop
Light (CHMSL).

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That’s pretty dumb!

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Now for the Europeans out there, you might
ask what this vehicle looks like with its

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hazards on.

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Let me show you!

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They look like this.

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Now neither one of these lights can function
as a brake light!

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If I were driving around with my hazards on,
the only indicator that I’m slowing down

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is the third brake light.

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I think it’s for this reason that in Illinois,
and other states I’m sure, you cannot drive

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with your hazards on; it’s considered illegal.

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And this is a shame because there are plenty
of reasons where you would want to do that,

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such as letting other drivers know that you’re
on a spare tire and warning them that you’re

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driving slowly.

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But with this car, with the hazards on, TWO
THIRDS of its brake lights are no longer functional

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as brake lights.

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In the Odyssey, the hazards can be on and
the brake lights work completely normally.

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But this car?

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Ugh, I can’t stand this design!

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Now there are plenty of vehicles here in the
States that use red turn signals, but use

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separate indicators.

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In fact on this Odyssey, from 1999 until 2001,
the turn signals were a slightly lighter shade of red.

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That’s better, but there’s still ambiguity.

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For a vehicle in Europe, red light ALWAYS
means braking.

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If you ever see red, you know you should slow
down.

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But here in North America, that’s right
Canada too, red could just mean turning.

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So long as this is allowed, we will always
have to deal with signal ambiguity here in

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North America.

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While I’m up on my high horse, let me say
to you, car manufacturers in America, could

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you please just stop?

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Why do you continue to use this flawed design?

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Are you so concerned with saving a few dollars
per car?

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Multiple studies have shown that there is
a clear safety advantage to using amber turn signals.

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Even without a study it should seem obvious--

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distinguishing function by color will always be faster than

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by whether it’s flashing or not.

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My speculative answer as to why this continues
to be a thing in North America is that car

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designers like the cleaner look of red-only
tail lights, and the general public just doesn’t

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care enough.

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That second part seems clear.

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When the new Chevrolet Cruze hatchback was
released, GM decided to put in amber turn signals.

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SaabKyle04’s review of this car mentioned
this, but only as an aside in courtesy of

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those who might prefer it.

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It’s not preference, people, it’s safety.

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It truly baffles me how little people care
about this.

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And other times, the design seems to be there,
but the function is killed.

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I was thrilled when I saw the design of the
tail lights on both the Chevy Cruze sedan

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and the Equinox.

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Two white inserts, one of these is probably
an amber turn signal!

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I thought, good going GM, you fixed yourself.

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Nope!

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That one is a reverse light, and that one
does nothing.

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Although, I would bet that if either of these
cars is to be sold in Europe, you would indeed

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find an amber bulb behind that white lens
there.

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Even weirder, this problem isn’t limited
to American automakers.

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Sure, your GM, Ford, and Chrysler products
are most likely to use this turn-signal brake-light

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two-for-one combo, but a surprising number
of Volkswagen and Audi models do it, too.

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They couldn’t get away with it in Europe,
but in the US they do.

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That’s why I think it’s a designer preference.

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Plenty of “foreign” automakers --

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♪ lively music ♪

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Plenty of “foreign” automakers

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also use red turn signals on their cars for
sale in the US market.

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It’s less common to see the shared turn
signal and brake light, but it is surprisingly

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common in German makes.

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Oh, and even the Tesla Model S uses this obnoxious
turn signal brake light combo

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for models sold domestically.

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Yes, I know that’s American but, eh…

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[sigh of frustration because this part of the script hadn’t been completely thought out]

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Now I get it, how often is this really an
issue?

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We seem to be doing OK with cars like this.

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And a good, defensive driver will probably
still treat a red light of any sort as cause

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to start slowing down--or at least cover the
brake.

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But I’d love to see an entity like the Insurance
Institute for Highway Safety starting to take

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this into account for their safety scores.

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I would imagine the IIHS has data on rear-end
collisions per vehicle model, and I’d be

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curious to see if there’s a clear difference
between red-only cars and red-plus-amber.

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But the point remains--in Europe at large,
a red light on the back of a vehicle will

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always mean braking,

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and an amber light will
always mean turning or a hazard condition.

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See red?

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Must be braking.

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See amber?

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Must be turning.

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But in the US, see red?

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Who knows!?

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You’ll have to stare at it for a moment
to be sure.

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And while I’m griping--I know I’m such
a downer--this 16 year old minivan has a feature

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that ought to be standard in every car sold
today.

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Here’s the instrument cluster.

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Pretty basic by today’s standards, but it
gets the job done.

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Now I’ve pulled one of the brake lights out
so it isn’t working.

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Watch what happens as soon as I step on the
brake--

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a red light appears.

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What does it say?

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BRAKE LAMP.

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This 16 year old car is monitoring the current
going through the brake light circuit, and

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when it gets too low, it illuminates a warning
light on the dash.

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Why is this not just a universal thing?

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Another thing, can we make automatic headlights
standard?

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This vehicle has a light sensor on the dashboard
and when it gets dark outside the headlights

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come on by themselves.

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Even better, they’ll also come on if you
turn on the windshield wipers during the day.

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I’ve seen more and more people lately driving
around at night without their headlights on, and

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I think that’s because so many new cars
have backlit screens for gauges, so the instrument

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cluster is always lit.

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In an older car like the Odyssey, it’s obvious
that your headlights aren’t on because at

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night you can’t see the gauges, but that’s
largely not the case anymore.

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It’s apparently a little too easy to not
notice that you haven’t turned on your headlights.

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And also, too many people see the light from
their daytime running lights and assume that

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their headlights are already on, not realizing
that their tail lights aren’t lit for nighttime driving.

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So please, let’s get automatic headlights
in more cars, OK?

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They’re almost all computer controlled via
a relay anyway, so could you just stick an

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ambient light sensor on the dash and call
it a day, thanks.

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Now as you may know if you follow this channel,
in my family there are now both a Chevy Volt

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and a Chevy Bolt EV.

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And in the case of the Bolt, it has separate
amber turn signals!

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How amazing!

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Now, I suspect the reason it does is that
GM is marketing this car in Europe, and rather

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than create two separate tail light designs,
they use the same European-compliant version

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for both markets.

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I think this probably also explains the Chevy
Cruze hatchback’s use of amber turn signals.

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But this car demonstrates a humorous dedication
to design in spite of regulations.

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See in the US, tail lights, turn signals,
and headlights cannot be on any part of the

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vehicle that moves.

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So they can’t be on the hood or bonnet,
the doors or the boot/trunk/hatch lid/whatever.

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On this car, they are on the hatch.

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To get around this, GM has installed a second
set of redundant brake lights in the bumper

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which the vehicle will switch to as soon as
the hatch is opened.

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Take a look.

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What this says to me is that the whole “one
lamp for both the turn signal and the brake

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light” isn’t so much of a cost-saving
measure.

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It’s just a design that people like and
can get away with.

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And I don’t think they should.

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Incidentally, I saw an Audi crossover on the
road with tail lights like the Bolt, and one

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of the LED modules had failed.

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The computer had apparently detected this,
so for this car,

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the left-hand bumper brake light
was illuminating in its stead.

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It was rather an odd sight, but there was
a working brake light on both sides.

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That’s a very clever and thoughtful use
of redundancy there, Audi.

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Good job.

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But the fact that the LED failed is a little,
um, worrisome.

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Anyway, that’s enough hammering on about
automotive design for now.

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I admit--I like to look at the designs of
tail lights and I think they are a huge part

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of the look to any vehicle.

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I always appreciate a cool-looking tail light,
and I can understand the temptation to keep

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the design clean by eliminating the amber
bulb.

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But please.

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Think of the children!

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Or at the very least, think of the various
scenarios we’ve discussed in which having

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a separate amber turn signal is clearly advantageous

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and creates a safer, less ambiguous driving environment.

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Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed this
video!

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This is a little different from most of my
videos, and I have Jared S --AKA Wookie Goldberg--

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on Twitter for the inspiration to make this.

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I was beginning to worry that I was the only
human who was remotely concerned about this

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stupid design, but it seems at least 12 others
agree!

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So that’s good news, I guess.

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Anyway, as always, thanks to everyone who
supports the channel on Patreon, especially

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the fine folks scrolling up the screen.

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This channel is made possible with the support
of people like you, and if you’d like to

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join these amazing people and support the
channel too, why not take a look at my Patreon page?

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Thanks for your consideration, and I’ll
see you next time!

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Gah!

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Nature!

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That actually pricked me.

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Great going!

